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  What happens with a JW commits adultery and his wife is pregnant

  by Jessc8877 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  im not a jw but my recently x boyfriend is.

  he and were dating for the past 6 years.

  i found out he had gotten married to a jw in the last 1and a half of our relationship.

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  He (your recently X'd boyfriend) is a total scumbag and deserves to be exposed as the hypocrit he is.

  He made his bed, now let him sleep in it.
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  Born-in memories, etc this is my first post, guys ;-)

  by ThunderStruck52 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so i have decided to jump in and for the first time and share some of my random memories that seem to have been floating around my mind more and more lately.

  mostly if all the weird anxiety i experience from time to time is related to it.

  i guess that would be a different topic to post!.

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  Welcome, Thunderstruck52. I'm glad you find us worth your while.

  Let us entertain you...

  I have a confession to make... I fantasize about you...

  I left in the mid 1970s after about 20 years involvement. I am now in my mid 60s.

  Whenever I read a happy comment such as yours, for a fleeting second my imagination fires up and I wonder if you (the new poster here) might be one of the JW kids I grew up with. It hasn't happened yet (I have found a couple former JW friends, but never on this board).

  There were SO many of us back then - kids who were JWs simply because they had no choice. It is sad beyond all understanding that so few of that great crowd of kids never developed the courage to admit to themselves that Mom & Dad made a stupid decision 'way back when.
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  Jehovah's Witness couple and their young children found shot dead in two-story home after grim 'murder suicide'

  by kneehighmiah in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  murder suicide tragedy by jw couple.

  very terrible.. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2540809/jehovahs-witness-couple-young-children-shot-dead-two-story-home-grandmother-grim-murder-suicide.html.

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  "Sheddrick the anointed" had a 'stache. Spiritually weak. Probably removed as a microphone droid.
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  Post Traumatic Apostate Syndrome or (The Little Box of Madness)

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what tools does a duped person have?

  intellectual damage is done once you are indoctrinated.. your emotional ties to your "spiritual family" form a bias to free thinking.. .

  why should you make your life better by first making it worse?.

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  Terry said, " You aren't really smarter once you see how you've been duped!"

  reminds me of something Hannibal Lecter said: "When the rabbit cries, the fox comes running; but not to help."
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  Build it and they will come

  by Pete Zahut in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  "build it and they will come".

  i said, " in a world filled with crappy fast food restaurants that should never have made it, movies and tv shows that are terrible yet make millions, celebrities who are famous for doing nothing and butt ugly crappy cars that were built and sold by the millions; if you put "it" out there and are consistant about it, people will eventually find you.

  no matter how bad mcdonalds food is for you and (tastes) there will always be a line of people out the door.

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  ...and your avatar is shaped like a slice!

  ROTFL!
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  When A Fellow Apostate Goes Insane, What Can We Do To Help?

  by RottenRiley in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i don't know how to handle the situation with a fellow apostate who has lost their mind due to this evil cult.

  this guy is texting many of the elders under alias of six different cell-phones no less than twenty times a day.. .

  we had to change the locks at the kingdom hall because he was still stalking and prowling around the hall after advertsing he had left the kingdom hall and we were all no less than mind-dead zombies sucking out of the life of thinking individuals.

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  The Watchtower gets it wrong AGAIN - Tartarus is lovely this time of year!
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  Did any bethelites here see first hand books of magic and witchcraft in their library?

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  another thread made me remember hearing rumors of books of witchcraft and such found in if not the main library a restricted library at bethel, for research purposes.

  i wonder if anyone here had seen those first hand and if so, what exactly were the names of the books?

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  My personal library is loaded with books on the occult, demonism, magic, magick, etc.

  But I think you meant the BETHEL libraries, right?
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  Could really use some help regarding legal letter to avoid DF

  by Comatose in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i used to have a webpage saved and i have lost it.

  a young man and his wife had faded.

  they had a birthday party for their child and were called before a judicial committee.

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  BOTR, you have an advantage that most of us here don't have. You are extraordinarily well educated in the law.

  Would you be willing to share some constructive ideas with people looking for help on this subject, or is this all a lost cause as far as you are concerned?

  I have NO legal education, but I believe the rights outlined in the Constitution applies to individual human citizens, and through individuals to the organizations individuals form. Today the religious corporate entity is granted rights that no individual enjoys. But I am just a fool.

  You can learn who Doc Bob is if you wish to. Links to his posts have been cited here. Tell Ghandi I said "Hi".
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  I don't love my family

  by noontide in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  how can i love people that dont really know me?

  how can i love people i dont really know?.

  thats not love.

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  Noontide said, "... the first thing the said was, “Man, you grew up in a cult.” Funny how I never saw that in my 25 years-plus in the religion."

  You need to cut yourself a bit of slack. You had no prior experience on which to base any judgement. You are forgiven for being duped.

  We come into this world as tabla rasa, and we have no choice but to accept that what we are told about the nature of reality is THE TRUTH™. It is only after our rational skills are built that we can shatter the cheap plastic paradigm we've been handed.

  I don't love my parents either. One was a loser and the other was an abused ignorant religious fanatic who saw her kids as a way for her to gain praise. It's not MY job to make their lives better. That was THEIR job, and they failed.
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  Well my JW elder dad has lost his job...

  by BU2B in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  as a little background, my dad became a jw in 1980 i think, went to bethel, married my mom in 86' went back for another year and then i came along... he worked in the auto repair shop at bethel while he was there, and upon leaving, continued working in this field.

  my whole life they have been the type of jw parents that tell you how you will never get to high school, never graduate it, never get married in this system, never have children in this system etc.. i say this to illustrate the end is just around the corner attitude they have always had, probably because they fully bought/buy into the hype at the conventions/wt articles.

  my father has no plan in place for retirement, and he is physically slowing down doing such hard laborious work.

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  Your Dad now has a golden opportunity to pioneer during the closing days of this system of things.

  Long, long ago (1960s, 1970s) there was a FINE article in the AWAKE! about how God's servants could support themselves by growing CUCUMBERS.

  I'll bet that advice is as good today as it was when the ink was still wet!

  As a grateful child, you can gift your parents with a REALLY GOOD hoe.